It’s Not Over Yet
The Ben Ferguson Podcast
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4.8 • 5.4K Ratings
🗓️ 1 February 2020
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Sen. Lindsey Graham stops by to walk us through how Mitch McConnell got 51 votes to stop further witnesses. But Senator Cruz knows a lot could happen between now and acquittal.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, I'm Senator Lindsey Graham. Welcome to Verdict with Ted Cruz, the number one podcast in the entire country. |
| 0:07.1 | What is a podcast? |
| 0:16.3 | Welcome back to Verdict with Ted Cruz. I'm Michael Knowles. I'm joined by not one, but two U.S. senators to help us break down the most shocking day of the entire impeachment trial. |
| 0:28.2 | Senator Graham, thank you so much for being here. |
| 0:29.8 | Glad to be here. Gentlemen, the last time that we sat down, I was told this impeachment was going to drag on for weeks. We were going to get witnesses. We were going to get Bolton. We were going to get Hunter Biden. This was going to get long and ugly. I go to sleep. I wake up today. And the senators are voting. No more witnesses. This thing could be over next week. Senator Cruz, what happened? Well, today was a big day. And let me say, Lindsay, thank you. Welcome. I appreciate your coming. This is late at night. We spent all day in the Senate. They're not spending a lot of money on production. I'm sorry. |
| 1:02.1 | Well, this was, you're right, yesterday, if the vote had gone differently today, this trial could have gone on for months. We could have seen it drag on and on and on. |
| 1:12.2 | And it was a big deal. It was up in the air. And today was the most important vote we've had in the |
| 1:16.6 | entire trial. It really came down to, we knew we had 47 Democrats that wanted more witnesses. |
| 1:25.4 | Why? Because they hadn't proved in the case. They're losing. |
| 1:28.6 | And so the only hope they have is extend it, go on a fishing expedition and see if they can find |
| 1:33.4 | something. The big open question was, were four Republicans going to join them? We knew that two |
| 1:38.6 | Republicans were. They'd announced it already. Mitt Romney and Susan Collins were voting with them. |
| 1:43.5 | There were two other senators who were |
| 1:44.9 | in play, Lamar Alexander, Lisa Murkowski. And it was close. Last night, Lamar announced that he was |
| 1:51.9 | going to come out and say, enough is enough. And we just found got a final decision from Lisa today |
| 1:56.7 | just a few minutes before she voted. Absolutely. So I saw the update on my phone when Senator |
| 2:02.4 | Murkowski finally decided she was going to vote no more witnesses. How does that work? |
| 2:07.8 | Well, that's what I was going to ask you because it, Michael, have you ever seen his phone? |
| 2:12.5 | Hang in there. That's worth the wait. |
| 2:16.8 | Is, oh my, you don't get updates on this. |
| 2:19.0 | It is a flip flow. |
| 2:20.2 | The Russians can't get in this. You'll all have one in a five years. |
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