Hey everybody it's Joe Trippy and welcome back to that Trippy show this week

wouldn't you know it? Alex has left me in the dust. He's on the road somewhere. So you're stuck with me. Anyway, there's so much to cover this week with the latest indictments and yes everyone in the media is still missing the point.

With me today, Reed Galen, co-founder of the Lincoln Project, the host of the Lincoln Project podcast, which is My North Star of all the podcasts out there,

great interviews, Insight, every episode. Reed's been on with us before, and of course,

he and I talk a lot about this stuff. Reed welcome back.

Thanks Joe, thanks for having me.

You know in case folks you've been living under Iraq, Trump was charged in a 13 count

indictment by Fulton County, D.A. Fani Willis. It's a massive conspiracy case,

also including Mark Meadows. Rudy, John Eastman, Sidney Powell, and others, a total of 19 and 18 other indicted folks besides

Trump.

All that's been talked endlessly, but I didn't want to get read your take on, and particularly, you know, now we also have the, it looks like the far right dark internet folks have gone out and and docks the grand jurors in the case.

What do you make of all this and how important do you think it will be?

Well I do think it'll be important. I think it's important because as our own research

have shown you know the one thing or the two things that voters really you know

whether aside from policy and everything else which you don't even talk about anymore Joe is you know whether aside from policy and everything else which you don't even talk about anymore Joe is you know are these people corrupt and are they incompetent and

Trump is both in spades he you know and he has been for as long as anybody can remember. So that's not surprising in and of itself. It's surprising how many people,

many of whom we'd never heard of, right, were willing and are willing to still go along with these things, you know, and you talked about the

doxing of the grand jury in Fulton County, but it really goes back to you you saw the, in the indictment,

and we saw her video testimony last summer

during the January 6 hearings,

like Miss Ruby Freeman, right?

And the idea of these people going to her home on multiple occasions, calling her multiple times,

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