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Well, hello there, listeners, and welcome back.

My name is Stephanie Safarian, and you're listening to episode 421 of sustainable minimalist.

If you just found this show and you're thinking to yourself, what on

earth do they talk about here? Well we talk about intentional and eco-friendly

living. Today's show is one of those bread and butter podcasts on the show where we're discussing

decluttering and home maintenance. Specifically today we are examining the ways

in which our external lives, aka our homes,

and our internal lives, aka our psychology, influence each other.

Yes, holy moly, major topic, we're doing it today. My guest today has a very

interesting background. Helen Sanderson is a professional organizer, yes, but she's also a psychotherapist.

Helen believes that we can learn an awful lot about ourselves by taking a good

hard look at the state of our living spaces.

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