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Hello and welcome to it's in the code. Part of the podcast, Straight White American Jesus,

my name is Dan Miller, professor of religion and social thought at landmark college. And

always glad to be with everybody listening. Want to thank those of you who support us in

all the different ways that you do, whether it's through the emails, whether it is financially,

whether it is just listening to the ads, which I know suck, but they help make it possible

for us to do what we do. And as always, I want to hear from you. You can reach me at Daniel

Miller Swage, Daniel Miller, SWAJ at gmail.com. I always respond to as many emails I could. I

spent a lot of time over the weekend and early this week trying to respond to some emails to get

out a little bit from under the pile that I'm under. But it's a pile that builds up faster than

I can dig. So I think all of you who respond, all of you who share the great ideas, the insights,

additional information I didn't have, all the things that you share, want to keep hearing from you,

you're what really drives this series. So thank you so much. Having said all of that,

let's dive into the topic for today. And this is one that I've heard about again from a lot of

people from really a lot of different perspectives. And as it happens, several people just kind of in

the last week or so about this topic. And it stirs up emotions and passions that kind of go in

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