Welcome to Truest Blood, the official True Blood podcast.

I'm Kristen Bauer and I'm Deborah Amool.

And you've been invited in.

I want to do bad names.

On truest blood.

Welcome back to truest blood where we sink our fangs into the series,

bite by bite. This week is all about the bad blood. We're talking villains and not just any villain the

badest boy in Mississippi King Russell Edgington. The phenomenal

Dennis O'Hare is here to spill all the royal secrets.

Phnomah, no, I'm speechless.

I'm shaking. I'm so excited.

I'm shaking.

Working with him was staggering. But first let's have a quick bite. Great villains and why we love them. So actors often say they would rather

play the villain than the hero which is such an interesting take do you agree with that

Chris? Yeah yeah I wasn't allowed to play the villain for a long time in my career and then I got in somehow thanks to Alan Ball and

Charlene Harris and now I'm typecast in and I don't want out.

Well and this is fascinating that you bring up Pam as a villain because I'm not sure everyone would agree that Pam is at least fully a villain.

And inside my head I also have that. Well, so I found some quotes that sort of give us some insight into you know different

perspectives on villains and the first one goes right to that it's by George R. R. Martin

and he says nobody is a villain in their own story. We're all the heroes of our own story. That is so interesting and

true for actors and also terrifying if you think of it in the outside world.

Very true. Very true. The other fun thing that I think villains do is they as

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