Hello and welcome to the Not the Top 20 podcast. My name's Ali Maxwell. I've got George

Ehrlich alongside me. We're talking all things EFL and not to get too sentimental, but it feels like a

homecoming podcast of sorts. George, to his immense credit, having been very busy over the last few weeks

with his

proper job, work-wise, with Cheltenham Festival, especially at the forefront.

And we enjoyed a nice day there together last Tuesday.

But it's so nice to be back side by side, George, you texted me earlier saying, I've literally

been phoning it in.

And that's true, because the last few pods have been on the phone.

But quality's still high, but it's nice to be back together.

Yeah, it is.

It looks like you've lost about Stone since I last saw you, which is very good.

And he ran a half marathon yesterday.

So you hobbled in to the studio today to record.

But yeah, as I said, I'm looking forward to this because it hasn't been ideal prep.

I kind of feel like I've been playing, you know, and Football Manager, when you've got the

injury, the orange injury.

You know you're playing, but you're not quite there.

And now I feel like I'm back to full fitness here.

I don't understand how anyone could physically do a full marathon.

So if there's any listeners who have ever done that, fair enough. It was the one thing that got me round Hampton Court yesterday doing the half was the idea that I only

had to do 13.1 miles rather than 26.2, absolutely unbelievable. I wanted to give a quick shout

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