Now I think we're getting right at the heart of what democracy is all about when we're at

longer hits over who should be allowed to vote and who shouldn't.

Hello and welcome to the G0 World podcast.

This is where you'll find extended versions of my interviews on public television.

I'm Ian Bremmer.

And today, is it getting harder to vote as a black person in America?

In the 2012 presidential election, black voting surged to 67%. But by 2020, it dropped to 63.

Much of that decline was probably due to an enthusiasm gap with Barack Obama no longer on the ticket.

But some experts fear that new restrictive

voting laws, primarily from Republican state legislatures, will only drive that number further

down. Are these new laws really about making it harder to vote? Or are they about making it

safer to vote, as many Republicans argue? I'm joined today by syndicated Chicago Tribune columnist Clarence

Page. He once won a Pulitzer covering voter fraud. Let's get to it.

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