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Five Lives, Rock the Union Weekly.

Chris Jones, how are you?

OK. Seems like we see each other

either virtually or in person every day at the moment.

I know the dressing gown is back,

and I was actually reflecting on your thoughts about me

interviewing Eddie Jones and a dressing gown,

I thought, well,

Anton DuPont gets away, but I know he's a very special human being,

but he's inspired me to just go public with my bedroom attire.

I don't know. I think the world's best player can put a few more things off.

Then a man's seven years retired, but you know,

I'm a minor judge.

Fair play, a skills break up next week.

And there is a end of term filled to this

with still so much at stake for the Northern Hemisphere

for the home nations.

This is it for rugby and what feels like the everlasting season.

And the fact that we have four decidedes is astonishing,

because so often these tours,

at the end of that long season you're talking about oaks,

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