It's All Paul Newman’s Fault
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🗓️ 17 September 2022
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This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the tax implications of Patagonia’s founder giving the company a climate change nonprofit, the US railroad strike that almost was, and Adobe’s acquisition of Figma.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, and welcome to the It's 4.4.4 episode of Slate Money, your guide to the business |
| 0:19.5 | and finance news of the week. I'm Felix Salmon of Axios, Emily Peck of Axios is also here. |
| 0:26.0 | Hello. Along with Elizabeth Spires. |
| 0:29.4 | And we all know that we have Paul Newman to blame for the ridiculous surge in watch |
| 0:36.6 | prices. If we haven't talked about that, we can talk about that some other time. But yeah, it's |
| 0:40.9 | basically the Rolex collectibility thing is all Paul Newman's fault. But that is not the only |
| 0:46.9 | thing that is all Paul Newman's fault. There's something else, the little Paul Newman's fault. |
| 0:50.4 | Which we are going to talk about when we also talk about Patagonia being sold this week. That |
| 0:56.4 | is coming up along with discussions of the rail strike that wasn't and also the sale of |
| 1:02.6 | Figma to Adobe. And if you're a Slate Plus member, we answer your question of how do I work out |
| 1:12.2 | what to cook with all of this stuff. It's all coming up on Slate Money. Okay, so I really |
| 1:20.8 | want to talk about this Patagonia thing. Are you down for that? Let's do it. Let's do it. Okay, so |
| 1:27.2 | there are two dueling narratives going on in this story. There was the, oh my god, this is amazing. |
| 1:37.8 | Even Schroener has donated a multi-billion dollar company to climate charities and it's all |
| 1:45.6 | going to be owned by the planet now and isn't that awesome. Versus, oh my god, even Schroener has |
| 1:53.2 | taken advantage of a massive tax loophole to not pay any kind of gift tax, estate tax, capital gains |
| 2:00.5 | tax, or anything else and how rude of him. Can they both be true? Well, I think they can both |
| 2:09.2 | be true, but we need to back up and explain what happened. Patagonia is a three billion dollar |
| 2:14.6 | company. The founder has decided that he's effectively giving it away, so he's put 2% I think of |
| 2:21.4 | the shares in 501 C3, non-profit. And there's not a 501 C3, it's just a trust, I think. So he's |
| 2:29.4 | paying gift tax on that, but it's a tiny bit, it's like $17 million. Yeah, but most of it's going |
| 2:34.0 | into a C4, which is an organization that's allowed to make unlimited political donations. So he |
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