It's All Holy and it's All Ridiculous with The Bengsons
How to Survive the End of the World
How to Survive the End of the World
4.9 • 2.3K Ratings
🗓️ 22 May 2026
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
Abigail and Shaun Bengson are a married composing and performing duo raising two children in NYC and Vermont. Abigail was previously on the show in 2023 during our Witch Season.
In this raucous and tender convo, The Bengsons trace the origins of their love and their most recent musical, My Joy is Heavy (watch an excerpt on Fallon!), which the New York Theatre Guide called "A MIND-BLOWING CELEBRATORY EXPLOSION" and 1-minute critic called "One of the most TRANSCENDENT EVENINGS OF THEATER you’ll see this year.”
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| 0:00.0 | Let's rock and roll. |
| 0:02.6 | Here we go. |
| 0:16.0 | I'm Autumn Brown. |
| 0:18.1 | Front woman of the soul pop band, Autumn. |
| 0:21.0 | A queer science fiction writer, Autumn. All K. |
| 0:21.9 | A queer science fiction writer, a theologian, a mother of dragons, |
| 0:26.6 | and a healing justice facilitator for social movements living on Dakota and in Ashinaabe land, |
| 0:32.8 | currently known as Minneapolis. |
| 0:35.9 | And I'm Adrire Maria Brown. |
| 0:38.7 | I'm a weirdo. |
| 0:41.3 | I'm a luscious, |
| 0:42.7 | black queer witch writer-a-a-a-a-pacolidic love scala. |
| 0:47.8 | I'm really in a weird mood today. |
| 0:49.5 | Yeah, you are. |
| 0:50.2 | Public conversationalist, though, |
| 0:52.0 | and also a gardener of healing ideas, |
| 0:53.9 | not actual gardens, but I'm learning. |
| 0:55.6 | Right. |
| 0:55.9 | I live in the land of the Okanichi. |
| 1:28.2 | Well, I just have to tell you, I showed up to an event recently, and someone was like, I love that you're a gardener. And they were really starting to talk about gardening things. And I was like, loops. That metaphor went too hard. Right. I live in the land of the Okanichi, Shikori, Skuori, Toro, Ino, and Lumpy People is currently called Der Ham. Where we garden and metaphor only. And this is... I mean, I have a banging garden. I just need someone to teach me how to go harvest stuff out of it right now. Yeah, exactly. What is this? What is it? This is how to survive the end of the world. This is our podcast about learning from apocalypse with grace, rigor, and curiosity. As a reminder, we have no acts. We are fully |
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