Hey it's me, James Stacy, and today I've got Jack and John on the show to chat about the return of the watch industry trade show and then a consideration of how we define an integrated bracelet.

With watches and wonders a little more than a month away, we wanted to set the stage

for it looks to be the new big show on the calendar. And after that, following a recent pair of

point counterpoint stories published to the site late last week, we've got a loose and somewhat

ponderous chat about watch bracelets and why we call some of them integrated.

As you might expect, things get a bit nerdy. Jack John welcome back to the show.

I think this is going to be a fun one.

We've got a few things to talk about.

How are you guys doing well, James?

Doing absolutely outstanding.

I'm coming to you live from a temporary apartment that my family had to move into on very short notice so that

the management team and my apartment complex could repair water damage to our ceiling,

but I promise you it will not affect the quality of my work.

You're a consummate professional even when the ceiling is literally crumbling above you.

And you know what?

I've always said that about you, Jack.

You know, I appreciate both you being on the show of course and yeah, I think I think the first thing I want to talk about is I've been getting messages from people asking like, what are you guys doing for Basel world? What are you doing for S.I. H. And I feel like we might want to kick off because we're like a little

over a month away from this becoming our new reality, the new watches and wonders in Geneva,

but I think that a lot of people over the course of the pandemic kind of lost track of the

trade show.

I think the watches and wonder people have done a really good job, but of course they kind of

rebranded in some ways from S.I.H. and there's different locations and

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