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Thank you again for this. If you were trying to explain

Liverpool against Manchester United as a competition as a rivalry as whatever it might be to someone who

would never be to a Premier League again before. How would you do that?

I'm the wrong person probably to do that because...

This is the 13th time of people that you've been involved in this meeting, so you're no better than

then.

Yeah.

The 16th time actually.

Let me say it like this if the moment is when they do the fixture list

it's one of the first looks you have.

One is that?

With which time around, these kind of things.

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