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Welcome back to a numbers game with Ryan Gurduski.

This episode today is unfortunately not on the happiest topic.

For a while, I have been hearing that there's this quiet push to get President Trump to backpedal on his calls for mass deportations.

They were too cruel.

It would hurt people,

I heard his reputation with Hispanic voters. It would sour his poll numbers with American people.

It would hurt the economy. The constant fear of rotting fruit in the fields was plagued politicians for decades. You know, no, no, no, you can't take away our illegal labor.

We need them. Think of the lemons. All of those things were now haunting President Trump. As if places like Japan were importing a million Mexicans a year

to pick rice patties, we absolutely could not, under any circumstance, lose our illegal labor.

This is what has been emphasized by Trump by a number of sources, right, from big

agriculture and the hospitality industry especially, but the Chamber of Commerce has been

very involved. And according to several sources, it's been by both Senate Republicans and

some celebrities. A few days ago, I was on a call with somebody who was very well tapped into the

White House. And he said to me in the conversation, you know, it's not all Brooke Rollins. He actually

said it was not Brooke Rollins at all. And the source said to me, don't put too much blame on her.

And he was not a Brooke Rollins fan, the source. He said, Joe Rogan had met with the president and had emphasized the president that he should not be doing these raids at construction sites, these were just people showing up for work, and it would be harmful. Now, I don't know if Joe Rogan has any, like, investments in a construction business or anything like that, or it's just because he saw the videos online. I have no clue whatsoever. But Joe Rogan was the one sitting there and saying that to Trump and leaving a very, very big impression. Now, I had heard this and then right afterwards, I went on the Vince Cogniz radio show and I said it up there and I didn't save it for this podcast. I should have saved it for this podcast. But I almost thought it was unbelievable. I couldn't believe that. I also heard that his daughter,

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