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Welcome back to a numbers game with Ryan Gurdesky.

Thank you guys for being here.

I am so excited about this episode.

I know I say that a bunch of episodes, but I, one, generally love doing this podcast.

And two, I have on bestselling writers, New York Times reporters, Maggie Haberman, and Jonathan Swan.

I am, I think, the first conservative host to

interview the both of them together about their book about the first year of the second Trump

administration. I know instantly saying that a bunch of my audience is going to say,

Maggie Heyerman, John and Swan, I'm not listening to New York Times reporters.

I understand everything conservativeist people at the New York Times. I get it. I totally understand.

I'm asking you, please give it a shot. Listen, I think I asked them a really interesting set of questions. I held part of what the New York

Times kind of presents accountable when it comes to President Trump. I at least pushed back a little

bit on some things, on some perspectives. And I also challenged my audience just to listen and just to hear

certain things out. I think I did

the best I possibly could. So do me a favor and just listen. If you are skeptic of the time,

skeptic of Maggie and Jonathan, everything, just give it a shot. I promise you. If you're saying this

episode when you're stuck in trafficking, I'm nothing to do. But please give this a shot. I think everyone's going to take something with this.

That's very, very important.

But before we go into the interview, I want to talk about both campaign gossip because I got

some and to data.

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