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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

It's a Numbers Game: The Numbers Behind Crime Declines with Charles Fain Lehman

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Politics, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Daily News

4.511.4K Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Ryan welcomes Charles Fain Lehman to analyze recent polling that shows voters in deep-blue California and New York strongly oppose partisan gerrymandering, despite Democratic leaders’ threats to pursue it. The discussion shifts to America’s violent crime trends, highlighting the surge in homicides since 2014, the impact of progressive policies, and the disproportionate toll on Black communities.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:07.9

Welcome back to a numbers game with Ryan Gerdusky.

0:10.3

Happy Monday, folks.

0:11.3

Hope you had a great weekend.

0:12.7

I know Thursday's episode was a bit of a Debbie Downer for a lot of conservatives.

0:17.9

I didn't have a lot of great polling information.

0:20.3

But I kind of do today,

0:22.8

and I have an interesting story that is good for everybody. It's not just good for conservatives.

0:27.5

It's good for literally everybody who lives in America. So on the polling, two polls have come out,

0:32.6

one in California and one in New York, asking if voters in those states support a mid-decade redistricting

0:39.5

and partisan gerrymandering. You may remember Kathy Hogle and Gavin Newsom in response to

0:46.0

the efforts by Governor Greg Abbott to redistrict the state and give Republicans more seats,

0:53.8

they threaten to do the same in their respective

0:56.1

states. But they do not have the same power in either New York or California because those states

1:02.7

have independent redistricting. The polls that had come out asked voters in those states whether

1:09.5

or not they would support changes to the

1:13.1

Constitution because both those states forbid mid-decade redistricting and forbid partisan gerrymandering.

1:19.7

You have to go through independent commissions and it is in the state constitution.

1:24.1

So you would need a rep, you need the voters to participate in the process to change

1:29.4

the laws. It can't just be Gavin Newsom and Kathy Hogle on their own accord, on their own whim.

1:35.7

So a poll from the University of Berkeley found that only 36% of Californians supported Newsom's

1:42.7

plan and 64% opposed. Making things worse for

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