So here's an interesting point he did.

Where are you talking about the messaging by the White House and how it is that you've

got these headlines going around? Time magazine. Trump gave Americans a massive tax cut.

Few were noticing. The New York Times face it. You probably got a giant tax cut.

And the realization that the vast majority of people got tax cuts, but the vast majority of

people think they didn't. Right. How does the White House not fix that messaging earlier?

I would put out that both of those outlets are distinctly left leaning and it's got to be so clear a case

for them to say something like that. That it's a hell of a clear case. It's not like one of the subtleties

of immigration or something. This will encourage immigration. Well, some believe it will dis... No,

it's just black and white. And they, you know, had to come out as strong as they did. I think

that's really notable. To discuss that and then in similar topics, please welcome back to the show.

Deborah J. Saunders, the White House correspondent for the Las Vegas Review.

General Deborah, how are you? I'm great. How are you doing? Oh, we're fine and dandy, really.

So let's talk about White House messaging. I don't know if you want to get all editorialists as we've been.

I think Donald J. is enormously talented. It's certain aspects of messaging. But in general,

the White House shop is done not a great job. And let me hit you with a couple of numbers real quick

to make the point for people who make between 50 and $75,000 a year. That's kind of like right in the

wheelhouse for a lot of the country. 82% got a tax cut. Only 41% think they got a tax cut. Wow.

Half for people making 75,000 to 100,000. Almost 90% of those people got a tax cut. Only 47% of people

think they got a tax cut. It's astonishing. It is astonishing. And why would that be? Well, we know

Donald Trump told people that they get tax cuts, but he's not always the most credible person.

Right? So even though he has sent his message out and even though they're really clear about it,

...