It Isn't Time to Negotiate in Ukraine...Yet
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🗓️ 30 November 2022
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Summary
With no clear path to advance and winter settling in, what would it take for Russia to negotiate an exit from Ukraine?
Guest: Fred Kaplan. Slate’s war stories correspondent
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| 0:37.0 | These days, this is what nights in Ukraine sound like. |
| 0:47.2 | This snippet of video, where shop-ed journalist named Liz Cookman, |
| 0:50.4 | she is reporting from the city of Deneepro. |
| 0:52.4 | In places like Deneepro, the city center has gone dark because of power cuts, |
| 1:00.1 | and the temperature is hovering somewhere around freezing. |
| 1:03.8 | The lack of heat may not be the worst of it, though. |
| 1:06.3 | Elevators are out in urban high-rises. In some buildings, you cannot even flush the toilet. |
| 1:13.3 | In fact, Russia's bombing has left Ukraine's energy system on the brink of collapse. |
| 1:18.5 | And Slate's Fred Kaplan says, that's all part of Russia's plan here. |
| 1:22.5 | Look, they're losing on the battlefield, |
| 1:24.7 | military on, military. And so, when that happens, they go after the population. |
| 1:30.5 | They commit what's essentially war crimes. |
| 1:37.8 | And what is the most vulnerable thing in Ukraine, in the winter? |
| 1:42.8 | It's power stations. |
| 1:44.4 | Because going up to the grid punishes everyone. |
| 1:47.0 | The idea is to pressure the Ukrainian political leadership to give up, |
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