It Is a Make or Break Moment for America
DSR's Words Matter
Riley Fessler
4.6 • 2.9K Ratings
🗓️ 1 May 2026
⏱️ 38 minutes
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| 1:02.4 | This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C., |
| 1:13.5 | and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world. |
| 1:20.3 | Hello and welcome to DSR's Words Matter. It is that time of the week. I'm David Rothkopf, |
| 1:26.3 | and I look forward to it because I get to |
| 1:29.2 | turn to Norm Ornstein, who is not only the smartest guy in Washington, but kind of a therapist, |
| 1:35.8 | kind of the most entertaining person to talk to in Washington, certainly what every one of us |
| 1:42.1 | needs at least once a week. |
| 1:49.1 | So let me start by asking you a question, Norman. |
| 1:50.7 | That is, how do you do it? |
| 1:55.5 | You know, as I was listening to you, David, I was thinking everybody should have a therapist that makes them feel worse after the visit when they came in. |
| 2:00.2 | I have very divided feelings right now. One part, I am |
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