This is an I-Heart podcast.

Guaranteed Human.

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio,

the George Washington Broadcast Center.

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Armstrong and Getty.

And now he's Armstrong and Getty.

Do you believe it will be smarter than all humans?

I believe it will reach that level, that it will be smarter than most or all humans in most or always.

Do you worry about the unknowns here?

I worry a lot about the unknowns.

I don't think we can predict everything for sure,

but precisely because of that, we're trying to predict everything we can.

We're thinking about the economic impacts of AI.

We're thinking about the misuse.

We're thinking about losing control of the model.

But if you're trying to address

these unknown threats with a very fast-moving technology, you've got to call it as you see it,

and you've got to be willing to be wrong sometimes. Losing control of the model, there's so many

angles to artificial intelligence that could be horrific.

Before we get to that in a second, I don't know, just coincidentally, I guess, I assume 60 minutes have been planning this conversation with Anthropic, one of your big AI corporations

for a while now.

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