New from Embedded. Who gets to compete as a woman? This question came up in ugly form at the Paris Olympics,

but it's not new. If she runs like a man and talks like a man, is she a man?

Here about the long history of sex testing women athletes on Tested.

A new series from CBC and NPR's Embedded Podcast.

A warning, this episode contains discussion of intimate partner violence and sexual assault. The 2016 Colleen Hoover novel It Ends With Us was a massive and I do mean

massive bestseller and now the book is a movie. It stars Blake Lively as a woman who

falls for a hot neurosurgeon only to find their relationship complicated by the

return of an old flame. She also has to reckon with her feelings about her abusive father and the

mother who stayed with him. I'm Linda Holmes and today we're talking about it

ends with us on pop culture happy hour from NPR. Joining me today is Wailen Wong. She's the co-host of NPR's Daily Economics

Podcast, The Indicator from Planet Money. Hi, Whelan.

Hi, Linda. Nice to be here. And also with us is culture, writer, and critic Shimira Ibrahim.

Hi Shimira. Hey Linda, happy to be here as always. So it ends with us is the story of a woman

named Lily Bloom, whom we meet just after the death of her father.

It pretty quickly becomes clear that he was a dark presence in her life.

And as she's dealing with his death, she meets a flashy, sexy neurosurgeon named Ryle, played by Justin Baldoni.

Why haven't I seen you before?

Well, mostly because I've never required brain surgery,

but also because I don't live here, so.

She's broke into my building?

I have a really nice view.

Baldoni also directed the movie.

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