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The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show

It Doesn’t Have to be Crazy at Work with Jason Fried

The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show

Chase Jarvis

Celebrity, Art, Career, Creativity, Money, Entrepreneurship, Self-improvement, Education, Careers, Writing, Interview, Investment, Influencer, Business, Photography

4.8641 Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2018

⏱️ 114 minutes

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Summary

With so much information, and gadgets and access and hustle and email and …and.. aren’t you overloaded at work!? It’s understandable and it’s a real problem. If this describes you or someone you love…you’ll LOVE this episode of the show.  

Enter: Jason Fried.  He’s the brilliant NYT best-selling author and co-founder of the software firm, Basecamp.  Since long before meeting Jason in person he’s always caught my eye as perhaps THE outspoken thinker / critic of the current status of work, our unhealthy habits around our jobs, and our addictions to busy-making. Whether it’s the toxic hustle, the grow-at-all-cost mentality, or the idea of working your fingers to the bone…Jason helps us all see why 99% of this approach is rubbish. And within 3 minutes of meeting him / listening to this episode, I’m banking you’ll be in agreement with him.

The one refreshing difference with Jason?  He also gives us a roadmap to fix what we’ve broken. In this episode we talk about is latest book (co-authored with previous cjLIVE podcast guest David Heinemeier Hansson!) called It Doesn’t Have to be Crazy at Work, which lays out a play-by-play on how to avoid all exhaustion, stress, and burnout and how to find tools for reshaping success, habits, trust, self care, and gaining that much-needed fresh perspective.

In this episode, we cover lotsa stuff, including...

  • How hard work and hours are not the same thing. In fact, long hours not only leads to burn out, but to lack of new ideas AND disease.
  • Why instant communication (slack, messenger, text etc) is making us slaves to our devices, less effective, and spending more time on the conveyor belt of information consumption than doing any real work! 
  • Some insights and strategies for regaining control over our screen time, our sleep patterns, and where we put our our attention.
  • A re-framing of our always-busy culture around the JOYS of missing out. Not FOMO…we’re talking JOMO. 
  • Why regaining control of our time starts with learning how to say no.
  • …and that’s all in the first 10 minutes. Just kidding but you get the point. This episode of the podcast is chock full of inspired virtues for reclaiming our spirit, doing GREAT work and loving life in the process.

Enjoy!

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, what's up? It's Chase. Welcome to another episode of the show.

0:08.0

That's right, the Chase Travis Live show here on Creative Live. I am honored to be in your ears, and we have a great show for you today.

0:15.0

I have an amazing guest. His name is Jason Freed.

0:19.0

Jason, in addition to being a best-selling author,

0:21.2

is the founder and CEO of Basecamp, project management software

0:25.7

that I used in my photo studio for a good 10 years.

0:30.2

I mentioned he's an author of a couple of books,

0:32.0

one of which changed my approach to work.

0:34.4

It was called ReWork a number of years ago.

0:36.9

They've also since written one.

0:38.5

He and his partner named David Hannah Meyer Hansen, who you may recognize as a previous guest

0:44.4

on the show. But this time, we're very happy to have Jason on board because he's going to talk

0:48.9

about his new book, their new book, I should say, they write these things together called

0:52.6

It Does Not Have to be Crazy at Work.

0:55.0

If you thought about 80 hour weeks, pack schedules, endless meetings, inbox, unrealistic

1:00.0

deadlines, you're sleeping crappy, pulling all-nighters.

1:03.0

They have a philosophy that will be music to your ears because it doesn't have to be like that.

1:09.0

They have posited in their book that this is a cultural challenge that we are unnecessarily

1:15.6

facing and they have built an amazing company called Basecamp in an image of a company that

1:21.6

doesn't have to be like that and doesn't thrive on those things and doesn't say that they

1:26.6

are required for success.

1:27.8

In fact, they've built an amazing, insane business on the back of regular 40-day-hour work

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