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Welcome to Aikadha to Have and to Hear a podcast about things falling apart and how to put them

back together again. I am your host, Mia Wong.

And today we are going to be talking about, frankly, the largest and most draconian trans

healthcare band in the country.

And the unexpected place that, well, I don't know if unexpected is the right word, but the

ignored place that it's come from.

And with me, with me to talk about this band is David Forbes, who is an editor and a journalist with the Trans News Network.

David, welcome to the show.

Always good to be here.

I, once again, back to my, I wish I could have people on the show to talk about

like cool and normal things, but, you know, we get that sometimes. This is not one of those stories.

I mean, we're trans journalists in a dying empire. Yeah. So speaking of bad things happening in dying empires, do you want to take us sort of to the start of this healthcare ban and what we're even talking about here?

Because it's not a government health care ban in the way that I think people expect.

No. And that's actually really important to all this story because a lot of the attention in health care bans has been on governments and occasionally hospitals, like secular hospital systems, refusing to provide care because they're scared of the federal government.

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