This is the Potter's Cast.

A podcast home for Potters Everywhere.

It's a community of Potters dedicated to grow their business.

We're picking up where the art degree ends.

I'm your host, Paul Blaze.

Well, it's good to be back on track with episode number 646 of the Potters' cast.

Yeah, it was really sad to have lost last week on the show,

but, you know, got us back on on Tuesday, and here we are Thursday, still doing it. Computers

working fine, rocking and rolling. Yeah, there you go. Hey, we've got Jamie Nagel coming on the show

today, and she is, well, in her own

word, she says, I'm just an arty person, you know, and it really shows in her work and I love her

work. I would love for you to come and check out her work. I've got it over on the show notes page.

You can see it if you go to the potterscast.com forward slash

646 and that will get you to her show notes page. And one of the things that we talk about in this

is about the principle of making money. I was just sitting down with the buddy of mine this afternoon and he said this

line that I thought it's just so phenomenal. He said, look, business is all about profit. You have to

make money. And that's a part of the whole mix of being an entrepreneur or being trying to run

ceramics as a business.

I look, if you're just into it for the hobby of it, you're just into it for the sake of

making because you like it, that's all good. But if you're trying to do it as a business,

then as Jamie says, it can't just be a money suck. And I think that that is so accurate.

And so Jamie and I get into that conversation.

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