Hey, what's up? It's Gustavo Ariano, and I've got some great news. The Times and Sister podcast, the envelope, it's back for a new season. It's a weekly show featuring deep dives with movie and TV stars. And today, we bring you a sample of the envelope, a conversation with Issa Ray, the brilliant, hilarious mind behind the recently concluded HBO show insecure. In this episode, Issa talks about the incredible trajectory of her career, from a YouTuber

turned Hollywood Powerhouse and how she repped South Los Angeles in a way that wasn't just

real but uplifting.

Enjoy it, Issa, if you're listening, that last line and insecure series finale, made my wife

and I blush and laugh.

Hi, I'm Yvonne, Villarreal.

And I'm Mark Olson.

You're listening to The Envalo, the LA Times podcast where we talk to top talent in TV and

Phil.

Mark, I have to say that today's episode is really bittersweet for me.

Like, on the one hand, I'm thrilled to have had a chance to speak to Issa Ray fresh off

the heels of the insecure finale. And, you know, ask her all my

burning questions about like alternate endings and surprise moments. But I'm so sad because I can't

believe it's really over. You know, it's funny. I am not as dedicated to watcher as as you are.

But it's funny, you know, every week when there's a new episode, like my Twitter feed just goes nuts. And I like sort of like, you know, ambiently follow along with the conversations where I feel like I sort of know something about the show. I know that I'm, I believe I'm not supposed to like Lawrence. And then I'm very upset with him for the way that he behaved at the going away party. And I mean, the show, it feels like it's not only just a cultural phenomenon,

but these feel like characters that have become like friends for people.

No, totally.

And first, let me just say, if you have those feelings about Lawrence,

now you need to watch the finale.

And for those that haven't, you know, this episode

of the podcast has some spoilers. So go watch the finale and bookmark this conversation for later.

But yes, to your point, like the conversation around the show was such a fundamental part of

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