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Israeli Journalist Nir Hasson

Amanpour

CNN

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Talks continue in Egypt to end the war in Gaza. But more than two years after the horrendous Hamas attacks of October 7th, and Israel's brutal military response, if a ceasefire is reached, what will life be like for Israelis, and for Palestinians, after the bombs stop falling? Israeli journalist Nir Hasson writes about what he calls the "October 8th Surprise," Israel's brutal response to the October 7th massacre, which has left tens of thousands of Palestinians dead, Gaza in rubble, and he writes, "destroyed the foundations on which the state of Israel was built." He joins the program from Jerusalem.  Also on today's show: Venezuelan opposition leader David Smolansky; former NSC Senior Director for the Western Hemisphere Juan Sebastian Gonzalez; Business Insider investigative reporter Hannah Beckler  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to Ammanpur. Here's what's coming up.

0:08.0

As Gaza ceasefire talks continue in Egypt, prominent Israeli journalist near Hassan looks back at what he calls the Israeli campaign of atrocities.

0:19.0

Then, with the White House ramping up military pressure on Venezuela,

0:24.3

is the U.S. attempting regime change against President Nicolas Maduro?

0:28.9

I speak with opposition politician David Smolansky

0:32.0

and former Biden official Juan Sebastian Gonzalez.

0:36.7

And...

0:37.0

Maybe this is the cost of doing business if we want this future built on AI, but is that cost too high?

0:43.3

The dark side of America's AI explosion, Harry Sweenevassan does a deep dive with investigative reporter Hannah Bekler.

1:33.5

Welcome to the program, everyone. I'm Christiana Manpur in London. The talks continue in Egypt to end the war in Gaza between Trump's key envoys Steve Whitkoff and son-in-law Jared Kushner, along with Israel's chief negotiator Ron Dermah. They joined top officials from Egypt, Qatar and Turkey. But now, more than two years after the horrendous Hamas attacks of October 7th and Israel's brutal military response,

1:41.5

if a ceasefire is reached, what will life be for Israelis and for Palestinians after the bombs stopped falling?

1:46.0

In his latest column for Hares, the Israeli journalist Nia Hassan writes about what he calls the October 8th surprise.

1:50.0

Israel's response to the October 7th massacre,

1:53.0

which has left tens of thousands of Palestinians dead,

1:56.0

Gaza in rubble, and he writes,

1:59.0

destroyed the foundations on which the state of Israel was built.

2:02.6

So, Nia Hassan, welcome to the program.

2:06.6

I need you to explain that for our audience because destroying the foundations on which Israel was built

2:14.6

is an important statement to make.

2:17.9

And I want to know on what do you premise that?

2:24.4

Well, I wrote in my article that I think my government is responsible of two disasters.

2:33.4

The first disaster is October 7 7 of course, but the second

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