All right, ladies and gentlemen, wow, this is going to be the last episode before I go on maternity leave.

You're going to miss me, I'm going to miss you.

So what are we going to get into?

Well, I just wanted to kind of put a clean button on the issue of Israel versus Palestine.

Last week, I was super honored to have Ami Kozak on the show. He's a

wonderful comedian. Go follow him. He's amazing. He's pro-Israel. I just wanted to

hear his position clearly and I was very happy with the response everybody that was commenting and saying that this is what there needs to be just more civil conversation less name calling and I think that he stated the pro Israel position very well.

I wanted to also yield some time on the show

to what I would describe as a pro-Palestinian position

by welcoming a Jewish guest, actually,

similarly Jewish, his family, both of his parents, pardons,

survived the Holocaust.

And yet he does not support the state of Israel,

which is really fascinating and confusing

for some people, so why not dive into it and allow Norman Finkelstein to explain

what he thinks and why he thinks it that's what's coming up today on can't

zones All right, guys, have you heard of Norm Finkelstein?

If not, I look forward to introducing you to him today.

Norman is a political scientist and activist

whose primary fields of research are the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the politics of the Holocaust.

His parents or Holocaust survivors, we're going to get into that later, and in 2020 he was named

the fifth most influential political scientist in the world.

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