Now it's been over 10 months of Israel's genocidal onslaught against Gaza.

We don't know how many have been slaughtered. We know based on looking at previous

mass violence that in these situations it's indirect deaths which end up killing

the most but we know that this is one of the great kinds of our age and one of the

voices of clarity, moral clarity, but also just the facts about what's actually happening, what's been committed perpetrated against the Palestine people has been Francesca Albanese, the UN Special Rapporteur

on the Occupy Palestinian Territories.

And, you know, I have to say,

and it is important to say this, I think,

and obviously, you know, there a board of context of the Palestinian journalist being slaughtered and the biggest sort of journalists in modern in any recorded conflict. But I just want to say that Francesca has taken a huge amount of attack on sort from the

pro-Israeli lobby, from the United States government even.

I mean a really vicious onslaught.

But you've never stopped doing your job, you've never stopped speaking out,

your research has been invaluable for all of us.

So Francesca, it's a big honor to have you and I hope you're doing as okay as as possible in the horror

that we've seen in the last few months.

Thank you so much for having me.

Always a pleasure to come back.

What I'm going to do, actually, is I'm going to start by quoting

Omarov, who is an Israeli-American professor of genocide studies.

He's a specialist in the history of genocide.

Now it is quite interesting.

He wrote this on the Guardian and he said that his view changed because he quotes himself back in November last year

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