Israel’s Real Plan: Expand War, Reject Ceasefire, and String Biden Along
The Socialist Program with Brian Becker
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🗓️ 6 June 2024
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
Israel prepares for a bigger war in Gaza despite its failures and the global condemnation for the invasion of Rafah. Even though Hamas has agreed to a deal, Joe Biden claims the problem with reaching a ceasefire is Hamas and the Palestinian resistance.
Brian Becker is joined by Layan Sima Fuleihan, a Palestinian organizer with the Shut It Down for Palestine coalition, a popular educator, the Education Director at The People’s Forum, and an editor at 1804 Books.
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| 0:00.0 | Israel has called up another 50,000 reservists as it prepares for a bigger war in Gaza. |
| 0:09.3 | Israel is failing in Gaza and Israel faces global condemnation for the invasion of Rafa. |
| 0:16.8 | Meanwhile, Joe Biden is going around the world or sending his emissaries around the world to say that the problem in reaching a ceasefire is Hamas and the Palestinian resistance. |
| 0:27.6 | We need a new system. We need a new society. |
| 0:31.6 | We need to demand that which may have sounded impossible even a few weeks ago, but is not only realizable, but an imperative necessity. City. Welcome to the Socialist Program. I'm your host, Brian Becker. |
| 1:07.4 | Today we're talking with Leanne Sima Fulihon. She is a Palestinian organizer with the shut it down for Palestine Coalition. She is a popular educator, the education director at the People's Forum as well. And she is an editor at 1804 books. Layan, welcome back. It's great to be back, Brian. |
| 1:27.5 | Layan, you saw the news, right? |
| 1:29.7 | 50,000 more reservists being called up by the Israeli defense forces. |
| 1:35.0 | It's one of two things. |
| 1:36.2 | It's either a faint in order to put more pressure on Hamas at the negotiating table or |
| 1:42.6 | Israel, the Netanyahu government is in fact preparing for a |
| 1:46.9 | longer war in Gaza, not going, in fact, for a ceasefire. What's your take? Well, Netanyahu is |
| 1:54.1 | definitely preparing for a longer war. Multiple Israeli officials have hinted and actually said directly in other moments that they're |
| 2:03.1 | considering 2024 to be the war of combat, that they're preparing for many months, if not through |
| 2:08.7 | the summer, through the end of the year of more bombardments, more ground operations until they |
| 2:15.5 | reach their military goal of completely defeating Hamas. |
| 2:19.4 | And this raise in reservists is a sign of that. |
| 2:22.7 | Just for context, in October, the reservist number, which is usually capped at 300,000, |
| 2:28.5 | was raised to 360,000. |
| 2:30.5 | It went back down, a little bit under 300,000 as the war developed and as the Israeli society got |
| 2:38.2 | tired of living in a war economy and reservists, so everyone is aware, are technically people |
| 2:44.3 | living civilian lives who are told to stop their life and go join armed combat. |
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