Okay, well, if you miss part one of our interview with David Sheen, this is part two where we're going to talk about David's deep investigation into the murder of Alex Ode, the West Coast Regional Coordinator for the Arab Anti-Discrimination

Committee, who was murdered by, it seems pretty clear, that he was murdered by at least a pair of Jewish extremists, ultra-Zionist extremists who came from West Bank settlements

and returned to West Bank settlements under the watch of several success of Israeli governments.

And David has done the most painstaking thorough investigation into this murder. You know,

if you miss part one, David is a long-time journalist, journalistic collaborator with me. You can

pretty much read his life story in my book, Goliath, Life and Loathing in Israel. And he's in Haifa, Israel right now.

And he is a veteran activist for the rights of asylum seekers in Israel and against Israeli apartheid

and a journalist who's contributed to pretty much any publication that has done any decent work on Israel-Palestine.

Most recently, I guess as we speak or a few minutes ago, David's fourth investigative piece on the murder of Alex Ode appeared at electronic Intifada, electronic intifada.net.

It's definitely a site you should be following,

and we'll put that article in his other pieces in our show notes.

David, this murder took place in 1985 in Orange County, California. I actually got to meet Alex O'Day's family during a talk I did

in Orange County at a community center where I and several other, you know, Palestine solidarity

activists and journalists and academics were thrown out under pressure from stand with us, a pro-Israel group.

And so we got together in a tent across the street because, you know, they love putting Palestinians in tents.

And we had dinner with Alex Odiz's widow and his children who are grown, you know, adults now.

But he was blown up in a bomb at his office.

There had been other bombings, uh, attempts on the lives of him and his colleagues.

The Jewish Defense League, a terrorist group, a Zionist terrorist group was very active in

L.A. until its leader, Irv Rubin, was, I think, killed in the year 2000

or jumped off a high, you know, jumped off a balcony in L.A. County Jail after he was

attempted, he was jailed for attempting to kill Representative Daryl Issa at the time, the only

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