Israel/Palestine: The History and What’s Real? Opposing Views with Norman Finkelstein and David Brog

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Mikhaila Peterson

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🗓️ 20 October 2023

⏱️ 133 minutes

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Summary

Hey guys, this is a sensitive topic and I tried to find two knowledgeable people to speak with to just hear both sides of the “history”. It seems like the world is split on this issue in a very extreme way and I always think speaking to people on “both sides” can be beneficial. In this episode of Opposing Views, I was joined by David Brog, and Norman G. Finkelstein, both have spent much of their lives researching the history of Israel and Palestine and living in the area. This wasn’t an easy episode to make and I’m sure I missed things and could have done a better job asking questions but I did my best and there was only so much we could fit into the 2 hours. I hope it helps provide some information so you can form your own opinions. Avoiding one side of a massive argument isn’t a good idea, ever.

David Brog is the president of the Edmund Burke Foundation, which hosts the annual National Conservatism conference. He’s also the Nevada Co-Chair of Term Limits USA. In 2022, he placed 2nd out of 8 candidates in the Republican primary for Nevada’s 1st congressional district. He is a graduate of Princeton University and Harvard Law School.

David Brog is the author of Reclaiming Israel’s History: Roots, Rights and the Struggle for Peace (2017) - https://a.co/d/e36homB

Norman G. Finkelstein received his PhD from the Princeton University Politics Department in 1987. He is the author of many books that have been translated into 60 foreign editions, including THE HOLOCAUST INDUSTRY: Reflections on the exploitation of Jewish suffering, GAZA: An inquest into its martyrdom, and most recently, I ACCUSE! Herewith a proof beyond reasonable doubt that ICC Chief Prosecutor Fatou Bensouda whitewashed Israel. In the year 2020, Norman Finkelstein was named the fifth most influential political scientist in the world.

Finkelstein is the author of Gaza: An Inquest into Its Martyrdom (2021) - https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520318335/gaza

Transcript

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0:00.0	Hey guys, I did an opposing views on the Israel-Palestine conflict coming up now where I speak to two people on each side of a controversial issue.
0:09.0	First off, I'm not the person who goes you to get wisdom on this war.
0:14.0	My opinion shouldn't really matter to people because I don't have the historical knowledge needed to have an intelligent perspective on what's going on.
0:20.5	I know what I've read and seen online, but I don't know how skewed that is in either direction or how much of it is straight up propaganda.
0:27.5	Just because I have a platform or anyone has a platform doesn't mean they're an expert on whatever the newest topic is.
0:34.5	All I really have to say is I don't trust the mainstream media on anything, so it's hard to figure out what's going on.
0:39.5	A few days ago, a hospital was bombed in Gaza and a lot of innocent people died.
0:44.5	Initially, a bunch of media articles came out saying it was Israel, then a bunch of media articles came out saying, no, it was Hamas misfiring, literally impossible to know what's going on.
0:54.5	And if the media has lied to us about everything else for the last, at minimum five years, why are they telling the truth now?
1:02.5	Anyway, either way, the situation is horrible. People are really hurting and very angry all over the world.
1:09.5	I've experienced thousands of actual threats in the last week from people telling me I want babies dead, mostly from being my dad's daughter and not listening to his actual perspective on the war.
1:20.5	This is happening even though I haven't commented on the topic at all.
1:24.5	If you don't comment, you get people telling you, you need to comment because you have a platform.
1:28.5	If you do comment, you get told you don't know what you're talking about.
1:31.5	And if you comment and it's not what someone wants to hear, then you get told you should go to hell.
1:36.5	Anyway, I have friends on both sides of this and all I know for sure is it's terribly sad.
1:42.5	I don't usually know much about the opposing views episodes I host, which is why I find them interesting, although I had my suspicions for the COVID episode.
1:50.5	I believe conversation in talking to people is the only way to figure things out.
1:54.5	And I wanted to know more about this horrible conflict, so I spoke with David Bragg, who gave his perspective on the Israel side.
2:01.5	He spoke about the current and historical events that led to this, and I spoke to Norman Finkelstein on the Palestinian side, where he spoke about the same events from a different perspective.
2:12.5	I'd recommend listening to both if you're interested in this conflict.
2:15.5	Norman's conversation is right after David's.
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