The Welcome to Grusam, your horrific true crime podcast.

I am Meg, and this is Connie, and this is

53 and a half, 54.

Second part of Israel Keys.

All right, guys, this one is rough.

So all of our normal trigger warnings will apply. So we know that he had all of these kill

kits all over the country. He was methodical. It is like we said it's scary to say how smart he was and how he thought of everything he spent his life admiring Ted Bundy like you had talked about it most of the serial killers that we know they had the specific type.

Like they had, I mean, Ted Bundy,

thin brunette hair part in the middle, hoop earrings.

But he, Israel Keys was a predator of opportunity.

He said anything with a pulse, which is also terrifying.

One thing seemed to be for sure that at this point,

not since he was a kid,

he hadn't committed any of these crimes close to his home.

And like we had briefly talked about in the last episode,

we say that most of these monsters are unable to feel the empathy or love but I really do feel like he

loved his daughter and I know it seems hard to like believe and people can debate me on it but whatever part of his body

that was capable of those feelings he had them and it was for his daughter I do not

feel like he I think he respected Kimberly and I think he

respected Tammy like as like partners but I do not believe that he loved them it was

just that was the facade like a girlfriend serial killers they have it

has to be extremes yeah you have to like that's why they go out and do these horrific acts is just to like something so

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