"Israel is synonymous with the end of the rules-based order" w/ Noura Erakat
Makdisi Street
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🗓️ 27 May 2025
⏱️ 85 minutes
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The brothers welcome legal scholar Noura Erekat to the show to discuss how the Gaza genocide has threatened to end the "rules-based international order;" the failure of international legal institutions to take meaningful action to stop the genocide; the collapse of Israel's standing and reputation in Western societies; and how to retain "infallible optimism" despite the most disturbing assessments of the status quo.
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Date of recording: May 20, 2025.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome everyone to a new episode of Magdisi Street. We are delighted today to have Professor |
| 0:06.0 | Nura Arrakat, who is a famous Palestinian-American activist, university professor, legal scholar, and human rights attorney. |
| 0:13.0 | Nura is currently a professor at Rutgers University, where she specializes in international studies, |
| 0:19.0 | and she is the author of Justice for Some, Law and the Question of Palestine that was published by Stanford University Press in 2019. |
| 0:26.6 | Noda is a powerhouse who has appeared and appears regularly on national international media |
| 0:32.6 | and in various forums, including most recently at the UN Committee on the exercise of the in inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in New York, |
| 0:41.8 | where she delivered like a searing, you can find this on YouTube, a searing indictment of the silence and complicity of the international community in the face of the Gaza genocide on the 77th anniversary of the Nekva. |
| 0:53.3 | Before that, Nora was recently awarded by the University of Ghent in Belgium, |
| 0:58.2 | the Amnesty International Chair Award. |
| 1:03.7 | So Nora comes to us on the back of some serious international travel and recognition. |
| 1:11.1 | Nora, welcome to Maktisi Street. |
| 1:13.6 | It's really great to have you here with us today. |
| 1:17.3 | Tislam, Osama. |
| 1:18.2 | It's lovely to be with the three of you. |
| 1:21.0 | And I guess the first question we have, Nora, |
| 1:23.0 | is typically we ask our guests, like your background |
| 1:25.7 | in terms of how you got into where you, how do you get to the place you are today. |
| 1:29.7 | But I guess a more pertinent question, perhaps, given what you just said in New York and given your talk in Belgium as well, your award in Belgium, is how do you continue to advocate for justice in the face of this extraordinary genocide and the |
| 1:45.2 | extraordinary complicity and silence of so many people around us? What keeps you going? |
| 1:50.0 | Yeah, I think that's the question, Usama, and I think that's really the question for everybody, |
| 1:55.8 | given that we are now on day, what is it, 589 of genocide. |
| 2:03.6 | And for those who have been following this, we understand that Israel's turn to warfare against the besieged Palestinian population in Gaza really begins in 2004, |
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