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Wretched Radio with Todd Friel

Israel, Christians, & God’s Redemptive Plan

Wretched Radio with Todd Friel

Fortis Institute

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Segment 1 • There have been many contentious conversations lately about things evangelicals have largely taken for granted. • Todd introduces a major cultural debate: should Christians support modern Israel—or rethink everything? • A deep-dive article promises clarity on one of the most confusing and divisive theological issues today. Segment 2 • What is Israel biblically—a state, a religion, or something far more concrete and ongoing? • Israel is defined as ethnic, national, and territorial—raising uncomfortable implications for modern debates • If Israel spans generations regardless of belief, what does that mean for today’s largely secular Jewish population? Segment 3 • Does the modern state of Israel actually matter in God’s overarching redemptive plan? • Even without a political state, Israel would still be central to God’s purposes. • Cultural Jews, secular Jews, religious Jews—these are outward markers that don’t change the Bible’s view of who they really are. Segment 4 • Are Christians required to support Israel politically—or is that a dangerous oversimplification? • Israel’s existence doesn’t equal spiritual restoration—so what should believers actually affirm? • Romans 9–11 raises a divine mystery: Israel is in unbelief, and yet part of God’s plan. ___ Thanks for listening! Wretched Radio would not be possible without the financial support of our Gospel Partners. If you would like to support Wretched Radio we would be extremely grateful. VISIT https://fortisinstitute.org/donate/ If you are already a Gospel Partner we couldn’t be more thankful for you if we tried!

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0:00.0

Ritchin Radio begins in three, two, one.

0:08.0

If it brings her to the same point that it brings you, it doesn't matter whether she called it God along the way or not.

0:13.0

That understanding works for you, so therefore it is absolutely right for you.

0:17.0

All beliefs have become only relatively true, and of course to the world, religion is just some personalized experience, not a divine revelation, and the church is catching the disease.

0:30.2

It's time for Wretched Radio with Taunt Friel.

0:33.6

Finally some clarity.

0:36.2

This is Rretched Radio, courtesy of Tucker Carlson, who perhaps is the first fellow for as long as I've been in evangelicalism, has been asking questions about our relationship as Christians with the nation of Israel. And as we've seen, there's been some rather contentious moments, some debate.

0:58.0

Hey, are we supposed to be supporting this state of Israel? They're not the Jews of the Old Testament.

1:04.7

Why are we doing what we're doing? Should we be involved militarily? Do we really get blessed for blessing Israel?

1:12.0

And Tucker's been asking those questions.

1:14.1

I don't know if he's been looking for answers in all the right places.

1:18.9

I hold in my never-before nicotine-stained fingers clarity.

1:23.0

I don't know if you're familiar with Michael J. Vlock, V-L-A-C-H.

1:29.4

He currently is a professor of theology at Shepard's Theological Sem and Kerry, North Carolina.

1:35.0

I believe Michael used to be at Master's Seminary, moved to South Carolina, which I don't mind saying was a very good move. South Carolina's beautiful. And he wrote a lengthy,

1:49.1

well, it's shorter than his book, but he wrote a lengthy treatise titled Modern Israel and Israel

1:55.2

in the Bible, clarifying the relationship. Is this light sledding? No, but it's a heavy subject, and it demands a little bit more than just a tweet.

2:05.8

His book, which is a fuller treatment, is Israel in the Bible storyline. I am going to share a lot of this.

2:13.4

This is one of those rare articles where pretty much everything gets marked up.

2:18.0

Yep, that's good.

2:18.8

Yep, that's good.

2:21.6

This is going to take a little bit of effort.

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