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🗓️ 15 December 2023
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0:45 Max’s book Rules for Rebels—and the rule that Hamas broke 4:13 Is social media a reality distortion machine? 19:32 “From the river to the sea…” compared to “globalize the intifada” 27:01 Does social media exaggerate the level of civil strife—and thereby raise it? 43:11 Is Israel’s assault on Gaza intensifying antisemitism? 56:08 How Israel’s actions impact the Jewish diaspora 1:05:54 The terrorism threat facing Israel 1:17:18 US foreign policy and the Israel lobby
Robert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and Max Abrahms (Northeastern University, Rules for Rebels). Recorded December 13, 2023.
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0:00.0 | You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast. |
0:32.9 | Hi, Max. |
0:34.8 | Hey, Bob. |
0:36.3 | How you doing? |
0:37.7 | Thanks for having me again. Yeah, Bob. How you doing? Thanks for having me again. |
0:40.0 | Yeah, pleasure to have you. |
0:41.8 | It's been a while. |
0:42.7 | Been too long. |
0:44.5 | Let me introduce this. |
0:45.8 | I'm Robert Wright, publisher of the Non-Zer Newsletter. |
0:48.4 | This is the Non-ZER podcast. |
0:49.8 | You are Max Abrams, political scientist at Northeastern University, and author of the book Rules for Rebels, |
0:57.8 | The Science of Victory in Militant History, that has some relevance to Hamas. |
1:02.6 | Maybe they'll have time to talk about that before this is over. |
1:04.9 | I think you have some guidance for them probably in the book that they may not have entirely, |
1:08.8 | may not have entirely followed. |
1:10.6 | Maybe they failed to seek |
1:11.8 | your counsel. You're absolutely right. What I do in the book is I look at hundreds of aggrieved |
1:20.5 | groups from all over the world going back decades to try to discern which kinds of behaviors are more likely to produce a favorable political |
1:33.2 | outcome. And what I find is that Hamas, among many other groups, are in violation. There's |
1:41.5 | wide variation in terms of the, you know, strategic quality of groups, |
1:49.5 | and this is largely predictive of how well they'll do. |
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