Welcome to the commentary magazine daily podcast today is Tuesday April 18th 2023.

I'm John Pudhord. It's the editor of commentary magazine with me as always executive editor

A Greenwald high Abe.

John media commentary columnist an American enterprise institute fellow Christine Rosen

high Christine.

John and Christine's colleague at AEI and our Washington commentary columnist Matthew

Kahnetti. Hi, Matt. Hi, John and joining us today commentary cover boy for the month

of May 2023 author of our stunning lead piece the return of paganism. Wait, is that

the title? Do I have that right? Okay. I'm for some reason it didn't sound right when

it came out of my mouth. Tablet mags own Leo Liebowitz. Hi, Leo. Thanks for coming

back to talk to John. Hello, Leo. Now, Leo, you are not only here to talk about your

piece the return of paganism, which is about the United States, but you have just returned

from your native land, eras israel, where you were for the Passover holiday. And of course,

we have much many high jinx going on in in Israel three two or three weeks after the suspension

of the judicial reform package announced by bebe netanyahu intended to calm the situation

down in Israel and maintain a certain level of social peace during the month of April

when we have the Passover holiday. Then today we have Yom Ha Shoa, the Holocaust remembrance

followed by the Israel's celebration of Israel's independence in May, which which also

happens to be of course the 75th anniversary of Israel's creation. Leo, give us your

download on what it was like to be back in Israel at this very peculiar moment, because

of course, though this was intended to buy social peace, the protesters just they can't

get enough and they can't stop. They got to keep going. They're still having weird protests

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