ISMAIL LOURIDO ALI on Building Informed Drug Culture /335

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🗓️ 31 May 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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In a profoundly informative and thought-provoking episode, returning guest Ismail Lourido Ali considers how we can create spaces for people to safely explore themselves and their consciousness. Ismail’s work to build an informed drug culture calls us to consider the ways we might prioritize balance and humility in conversations over moral judgment and cultural shame. Focusing on moving away from repression, the conversation weaves together nuanced ideas about pleasure, education, and societal structures.

Ismail’s approach to drug policy centers around finding spaciousness as an advocate, and making room for the growing body of knowledge around the uses, harms, and benefits of drugs. He invites listeners to dream of a conscious, compassionate, and safe world in which justice, peace, and balance are prioritized. How might the practices of harm-reduction and substance education expand to create a society that makes space for deep emotions, for crisis support, and for holistic healing?

Ismail Lourido Ali, JD (he/him or they/them) is the Director of Policy & Advocacy at the Multidisciplinary Association of Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), has been personally utilizing psychedelics and other substances in celebratory & spiritual contexts for over fifteen years. Ismail works with, is formally affiliated with, or has served in leadership or board roles for numerous organizations in the drug policy reform ecosystem, including Alchemy Community Therapy Center (formerly Sage Institute), Psychedelic Bar Association, Students for Sensible Drug Policy, Chacruna Institute, and the Ayahuasca Defense Fund.

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0:00.0	To listen to the extended version of this episode, support us on patreon.com slash for the wild.
0:10.1	Hello and welcome to For the Wild podcast. I'm Ayanna Young. Today we are speaking with Ismail
0:17.2	Laredo Ali. How do we fit these modalities that increase our vulnerability,
0:23.6	that increase our tenderness? Like how can we safely bring those into a world that is so brutal?
0:29.1	How do we create an environment where when people go deep into themselves or they go deep
0:33.5	out of themselves, that they can do so safely? Ismail Laredo Ali, JD, he, him or they, them,
0:42.1	is the director of policy and advocacy at the Multidisciplinary Association of Psychedelic Studies.
0:49.0	Maps. He has been personally utilizing psychedelics and other substances and celebratory and
0:56.1	spiritual contexts for over 15 years. Ismail works with is formally affiliated with or has served
1:03.2	in leadership or board roles for numerous organizations in the drug policy reform ecosystem,
1:10.0	including alchemy community therapy center, formerly sage institute, psychedelic bar association,
1:17.3	students for sensible drug policy, chakruna institute, and the ayahuasca defense fund.
1:28.7	Oh Ismail, it is so wonderful to have you back on the show. I was so moved and curious and
1:38.6	inspired by our last conversation. So I'm really happy that we get to do it again.
1:43.6	Yeah, thank you. I really love the invitation to be back and just appreciate the willingness
1:51.2	that you've had both to extend this conversation and just to bring in so many complex layers
1:57.6	and also simple court truths into this ongoing conversation that you're having with me and with
2:04.3	other guests around just what do we do? What are we doing? How do we adjust? How do we stay creative
2:09.9	and light as we move into the future? So just grateful for this platform and for the conversation
2:13.7	and really glad to be back. Thank you for that. Yeah, it's great. You really offer
2:23.9	a lot of stuff we need to hear and a lot of things that feel taboo and like we don't really want
2:30.1	to touch it in our culture but we are touched by it and are touching it all the time and so
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