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To The Best Of Our Knowledge

Island of Knowledge: What is Life?

To The Best Of Our Knowledge

Wisconsin Public Radio

Prx, Philosophy, Knowledge, Wpr, Ttbook, Wisconsin, Society & Culture

4.7844 Ratings

🗓️ 12 July 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Life is the sum total of the time between birth and death. But have you ever really wondered, what is life? It’s mysterious - and even science doesn’t quite have an answer. But there’s a new biology of life that’s overturning decades of assumptions. We report from a gathering of biologists, geologists and artists at the Island of Knowledge in Tuscany.

Original Air Date: July 12, 2025

Interviews In This Hour:
Why we need a new theory of lifeBeyond the genome: A new science of lifeHow humans can learn to be animal

Guests:
Marcelo Gleiser, Bob Hazen, Phil Ball, Melanie Challenger


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0:00.0

Life is the sum total of the time we have between birth and death.

0:05.0

You can measure it in years or in the number of breaths you'll take.

0:08.0

But if I ask you, what is this thing, this gift you've been given?

0:13.0

What is life?

0:15.0

Even science can't quite answer.

0:18.0

Billions of years after the first organisms emerged, fundamental aspects of life remain

0:23.5

mysterious. But that hasn't stopped us tinkering with it. Using stem cells to breed chimeras like

0:30.4

humanoid monkeys or grow brains in vats or cure cancer. I'm Anne-Strain Champs. And today, onto the best of our knowledge, new technologies

0:39.9

of life are inevitable. To handle them, what we really need is a new story of life.

0:49.4

From WPR. It's to the best of our knowledge. I'm Anne Strain Champs. I'm Steve Paulson. Today we're headed back to the island of knowledge.

0:59.3

Which, to be clear, is not an actual island. It's a small think tank in the hills of Tuscany.

1:05.6

We're three times a year, small groups of people, mostly scientists, some philosophers, and maybe an artist or two,

1:11.8

come together to talk about how some of the reigning models in science are just wrong.

1:16.1

This time around, it's early spring.

1:18.8

The orchards are green, the almond trees are blooming, bees are buzzing,

1:23.4

and the question on the agenda, what is life?

1:28.3

What don't we understand about life?

1:30.3

Oh my goodness, we don't understand so much about life.

1:33.3

This is our host, Marcelo Gleiser.

1:35.3

He's a physicist and astrobiologist at Dartmouth College

1:39.3

and co-founder of the Island of Knowledge.

1:42.3

Yeah, we know what life does really well, but we don't know what life is.

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