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Feminism was what saved me. Liberalism is what saved me.

Liberalism is what saved me.

These values, these ideas were so important to me.

I had to risk my life to be able to live by these values.

And to have fellow feminists and fellow liberals refuse to acknowledge or engage with,

you know, these traumatic situations that I'm talking to about is so painful. I mean,

they will go on and on about how we need to listen to women's authentic stories. We need to let

women tell stories with their voices. We need to believe women. But then when women like me

start to speak out, it's like, no, no, no, no, not you, though. You don't count. You're not

included in this. Welcome to the unspeakable podcast. I'm your host, Megan Dau. My guest, Yasmin Mohammed, is an author and a human rights activist, advocating for the rights of those living under religious extremism. You wouldn't think that would be controversial, but the extremism she focuses on is Islamic extremism,

specifically the fundamentalism that has arisen in the Islamic world over the last several decades

and profoundly changed people's lives. And that includes often draconian rules imposed upon women.

Again, you'd think speaking out against that would be a given, but progressive norms in the

West now often frame criticism of Islam as a form of bigotry, and Yasmin, who considers herself

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