"Islam moving up is an act of cowardice" - Chael Sonnen

Good Guy / Bad Guy

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4.4 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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On today's episode of Good Guy / Bad Guy, Daniel Cormier & Chael Sonnen dive into the big fight announcements that Dana White announced last week, but first and foremost, the stripping of Islam Makhachev of the lightweight title. What does this say about the landscape of the lightweight division as well as is this a sign the era of “champ-champ’ is over? Chael P has some strong words for Islam that you won’t want to miss! Then, with the lightweight title vacant, in steps Ilia Topuria to take on Charles Oliveira at International Fight Week… With Topuria being a heavy favorite, why are people overlooking Do Bronx ahead of this fight? Lastly, the highly anticipated middleweight title fight between DDP & Khamzat Chimaev will take place later this summer in Chicago… Do the guys believe this is the best fight, on paper, that the UFC can make right now? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	The bottom line is you entered a division openly that you said you wouldn't face one of the top guys.
0:04.8	That's not a sign of courage. That's a sign of cowardice.
0:15.9	What's happening, guys? I'm Chale. He's Daniel and you're in luck because we got another episode of good guy, bad guy. Daniel, what's going on, friend?
0:24.2	So I'm wearing a, like, I'm wearing a vest because I feel like good and it's like a nice vest.
0:29.8	Yeah, but I'm like I feel like my chest is puffed out because boy, did you see ESPN MMA's Instagram yesterday?
0:38.0	It was almost like I hacked the Instagram.
0:41.1	Bro, I get a text from Cheyenne.
0:43.3	And generally it says, get ESPN's team is sending you a collab.
0:48.5	Could you accept it?
0:49.7	This time it was like, could you accept it with a smiley face?
0:52.8	And so I'm like, man, it's my Instagram.
0:55.4	I'm not obligated to share everything that they want to give me.
0:58.5	But then when I looked at it, oh, Chale, it's a big picture of me.
1:01.9	And I'm holding two belts.
1:03.3	And it only said, this is a quick reminder that Daniel Cormier is the only guy to defend
1:09.3	both of those belts, and he was 38 when he fought Jones and 41 when he fought Steepa.
1:15.2	So, hey, Chale, my chest is a little puffing out,
1:17.8	so I figured I'd make it look a little bigger with this vest
1:20.0	because ESPNMMA, it was almost like I stole the Instagram to post it myself.
1:25.7	That's beautiful.
1:26.7	That is beautiful, my friend. That couldn't happen to post it myself. That's beautiful. That is beautiful, my friend.
1:28.0	That couldn't happen to a better guy.
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