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🗓️ 7 January 2016
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Isis in crisis
Released 07 January 2016
With Paul Wood, Dr Alia Brahimi, Harry Mount, Dawn Foster, Fraser Nelson and James Forsyth. Presented by Isabel Hardman.
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0:00.0 | This is The View from 22 from The Spectator. Subscribe from just £1 a week at spectator.com. |
0:09.2 | Welcome to the View from 22 podcast. I'm Isabel Hardman, the assistant editor of The Spectator. |
0:17.1 | In this episode, we'll be discussing our cover story, ISIS in Crisis, by the BBC's Paul Wood. |
0:23.3 | He says that behind the propaganda, the caliphate is in disarray. |
0:27.2 | Sources inside ISIS say morale has plummeted after a series of defeats. |
0:32.1 | They may be attracting recruits, but many fighters are disillusioned and thousands have already defected. |
0:38.7 | I'll be joined by Paul himself and Dr. Alia Brahimi, director of Contest Global, to ask just how deep the crisis runs |
0:45.3 | and whether ISIS can recover. Next, a very different kind of crisis. Jeremy Corbyn had said he wanted |
0:52.5 | open discussion in his shadow cabinet, but in this week's reshuffle, |
0:56.3 | he sacked two shadow ministers who had publicly criticised him. So was this the week the moderates |
1:01.9 | were frozen out? Our political editor James Forsyth and our editor Fraser Nelson will be joining me to |
1:07.6 | discuss where this leaves the Labour leader and his party. |
1:13.5 | And finally, should Cecil Rhodes fall? |
1:18.9 | In this week's magazine, our art critic Martin Gayford examines the history of removing statues from the ancient Egyptians to the present day. |
1:22.1 | Most recently, the Rhodes Must Fall student campaign has targeted statues of Cecil Rhodes in Cape Town and in Oxford. |
1:29.3 | They say having a statue of Rhodes glorifies a colonialist murderer. And with me to debate this, |
1:34.5 | a Harry Mount who says the campaign is a pampered student and Dawn Foster of the Guardian, |
1:39.2 | who says they're doing what students are meant to do, engaging with difficult historical |
1:43.2 | truths. On to our first engaging with difficult historical truths. |
1:46.8 | On to our first topic, ISIS in crisis. |
1:51.4 | I'm joined by Paul Wood, who is down the line and Dr. Ali Abrahimi. |
1:56.3 | Paul Wood, in your cover piece this week, you talk about low morale within the group. |
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