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🗓️ 11 November 2016
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0:00.0 | Hello, welcome to the Friday, November 11th, 2016 edition of the Sands and its Storm Center's Stormcast. |
0:07.6 | My name is Johannes Ulrich, and today I'm recording from Jacksonville, Florida. |
0:12.0 | Well, today we got another branded vulnerability in wilder vulnerability itself isn't really all that big of a deal. |
0:20.4 | It's a nice opportunity to talk a little bit about |
0:23.6 | firewalls and how they're dealing with ICMP messages. The problem here is that ICMP |
0:31.0 | unreachable messages cause certain firewalls, most notably some of the smaller Cisco ASA firewalls to drop packets |
0:42.3 | relatively early so you don't need an awful lot of traffic. |
0:45.3 | What they measured is around 20 megabits per second will cause the firewall to start dropping |
0:51.3 | legitimate traffic, where the firewall itself should actually |
0:55.1 | be able to deal with something in the gigabit range. |
0:59.0 | So why do we have a problem with ICMP unreachable messages? |
1:03.2 | Well, those messages, first of all, you should typically not block. |
1:07.8 | Now you can get away with blocking some of them, but essentially a port unreachable, |
1:13.5 | a host unreachable tells your system that you try to connect to a system that doesn't exist |
1:19.0 | where the UDP board is not listening. So you're not going to try to resent the traffic, |
1:25.3 | which would be another option if you don't get the error message |
1:28.3 | back. |
1:29.3 | So you only get these error messages if the problem isn't going to fix itself and sending the |
1:35.3 | same packet again is not going to solve the problem. |
1:39.3 | Now in order to help you figure out what cost the problem, ICMP error messages as payload include the first |
1:46.5 | few bytes of the packet that cost the error. RFC 792 asks for the IP header plus 8 bytes |
1:55.5 | to be included in the payload but typically you see more you see more likely the entire TCP header being |
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