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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics podcast.

I'm Isabel Hardman and this is the Sunday roundup. The Health Secretary Matt Hancock took to the TV studios this morning,

where he was quizzed on the latest stage of the government's roadmap for easing COVID restrictions.

From tomorrow in England and Wales, indoor hospitality and entertainment businesses will be able to reopen their

doors and rules on meeting other people both inside and out will also be relaxed significantly.

Andrew Marr asked Hancock if this was wise considering the appearance of the Indian variant of the

virus in the UK. Yes, I'm confident that we can take the step tomorrow,

but we should all be careful about how we take that step.

You know, so you asked me about eating indoors with people.

It's still safer to eat outdoors rather than in when the weather allows.

You asked about hugging people. When people have had both

jabs, then it is, that is pretty safe. But you shouldn't still spend a lot of time in close

proximity. You should make sure ventilation's good. We all know what we can do and take personal responsibility.

And when will all those businesses desperate for the full unlocking on the 21st of June?

When will they know that that's going ahead?

So we will take that decision and announce the decision on the 14th of June.

And I would love to be able to give you the answer now.

Sure. So 14th of June

what are the criteria you will use then so firstly is the vaccination program on track secondly

are the case rates going so high that they risk a big surge in hospitalisations third are

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