Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics podcast. I'm Isabel Hardman,

and this is the Sunday Roundup. Under pressure following the success of reform UK in the local elections,

Home Secretary Yvette Cooper is announcing new measures to lower net migration,

including scrapping the care worker visa.

On the BBC, Laura Coonsberg asked Cooper how care companies would find enough staff.

Let's think about the NHS and the care sector.

And the care sectors relied on foreign workers because they just haven't been able to get UK people to do

the jobs. The Tories changed the rules. So there's already been a drop-off in the number of visas

being given to care workers coming in for abroad. Do you want to cut that still further?

Can you see a day even when you say no care workers should come in from abroad? Yes, we do. And we're changing, going to change those rules this year to prevent the care worker

visa being used to recruit from abroad. At all? Yes. So, but we will allow them to continue to

extend visas and also to recruit from. There's more than 10,000 people who came on a care worker visa, where the sponsorship visa was cancelled.

Effectively, they came to jobs that weren't actually here or that were not of the proper standard.

They are here and care companies should be recruiting from that pool of people rather than recruiting from abroad.

So we are closing recruitment from abroad.

That is a significant change and we're doing it alongside saying we need to bring in a new fair pay agreement for care workers

because we saw that huge increase in care work recruitment from abroad but without actually ever tackling the problems in the

system in the care sector. But there are already shortages in that sector. I can almost imagine

somebody running a care home emailing us right now saying, I can't get staff. Where are they meant to

get their staff from? Well, we want them to recruit. We've got this pool of people who came as

care workers. In good faith, they were recruited.

But because there were no proper checks in place, because there were no proper standards,

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