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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectators Daily Politics Podcast. I'm Isabel

Hartman and this is the Sunday roundup. No one could argue that there hasn't been anything to talk

about since the Sunday interview shows made their last appearance in July. The latest thorny issue

to hit the headlines is the government's plan to reform the social care system and how it will be paid for. The latest thorny issue to hit the headlines is the government's plan to reform the

social care system and how it will be paid for. The Conservatives pledged not to raise the rate of

national insurance back in 2019, but Andrew Marr challenged the vaccines minister and adeem Zaharwe

to deny the newspaper reports that such a rise was on its way. Should people be paying more tax to get

better social care? Well, we are absolutely committed to reforming the adult social care system.

Should people be paying more tax? Well, I will bring forward our proposals, and I'm very

happy to come back on your programme when the details are published to discuss how we will pay for better

and reformed adult social care. Now, it's worth remembering, Andrew, that we put six billion

to help councils that is unringfussed to include additional support for adult social care,

plus the additional two billion, billion specific funding to reduce transmission and

bolster the workforce in social. But we will take it. We'll work with national partners,

with local partners and those who would live experience of the social care sector to get this

right and get it right as we are determined to do. So as a leading Conservative Minister, you can't sit there and tell me we should not be raising taxes.

You stood on a manifesto specifically promising not to raise VAT or income tax or national insurance.

Are you going to break that promise you made to the voters?

Well, as I say, we're determined to reform the social case system.

When we bring forward this proposals, I am more than happy to come back on your programme

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