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Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast. I'm Isabel Hardman and this is the Sunday roundup.

Boris Johnson was interviewed by Andrew Marr this morning and unsurprisingly, coronavirus was top of the

agenda. With much of England, now placed unsurprisingly, coronavirus was top of the agenda.

With much of England, now placed under Tier 4, the highest level of COVID restrictions,

Ma put it to the Prime Minister that an even higher fifth tier could soon be on the way.

Tier 5 people are talking about.

What I'm trying to get, the message I'm trying to get over to people is I think the same time

I was on with you last time in October

You said what's how does it look and I and I said we were going to have a very bumpy period

At Christmas and beyond but I thought but the by the spring things would be better

I stick to that I think that's that's roughly it's going to be. It may be that we need to do things in the next few weeks that will be tougher in many parts of the country. I don't, I mean, I'm fully, fully reconciled to that. And I bet the people of this country are reconciled to that.

Because until the vaccine...

What might tougher be?

Until the vaccine really comes on stream in a massive way,

we're fighting this virus with the same set of tools.

What we're doing now is using the tiering system, which is a very

tough system. And about to get tougher? And alas, probably about to get tougher, to keep things

under control. But we'll review it. We'll review it. And we have the prospect of vaccines coming down the track in their tens of millions offering people literally life and hope. And that is, and that is, and that I think is something that should keep people going in what I predicted back on your show in October would be a very

bumpy period right now. Johnson also had the following message for parents of primary school

children across most, but by no means all, of England. Should parents of primary school

children in England send them to school tomorrow morning?

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