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The Ezra Klein Show

Is Your Social Life Missing Something? This Is For You.

The Ezra Klein Show

New York Times Opinion

News, Government, Society & Culture

4.314.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2026

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

My motivation for this episode is personal. One of my resolutions this year is to spend more time hosting and to make those gatherings more meaningful. I think a lot of us wish we had better social lives and a stronger feeling of community around us. But it’s hard. We’re busy, we’re tired, and social planning and hosting can feel like just more work. So I asked Priya Parker on the show to help. Parker is the author of “The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters” and a wonderful Substack, Group Life. She’s also a conflict resolution facilitator. And she just thinks about gathering and hosting in a different way from anyone else I’ve ever met. For her, it’s about more than just throwing a great dinner party; it’s about how we build community across differences, all the way up to how gathering can help create a better politics. The way Zohran Mamdani’s mayoral campaign thought about community and built community among its volunteers was partly based on her work and advice. This episode is a bit of a break from politics — but also not. Because pulling the people we love closer and spending more time together rather than alone are as essential as any political or civic discipline could be right now. This conversation contains strong language. Mentioned: In Defense of Politics by Bernard Crick I And Thou by Martin Buber The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny by Kiran Desai “Adorable Little Detonators” by Allison P. Davis “The Accused” by Katie J.M. Baker “The Black Thought Project” by Alicia Walters “Zohran’s Smile” by Anand Giridharadas Book Recommendations: The Politics of Ritual by Molly Farneth On Repentance and Repair by Danya Ruttenberg BoyMom by Ruth Whippman Talk to Your Boys by Christopher Pepper and Joanna Schroeder Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Annie Galvin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris with Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our executive producer is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Marie Cascione, Rollin Hu, Kristin Lin, Emma Kehlbeck, Jack McCordick, Marina King and Jan Kobal. Original music by Pat McCusker. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The director of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.

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The

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The This episode was supposed to be our second episode of the year.

0:34.1

We had taped it.

0:35.1

I loved taping it.

0:36.1

It was my favorite conversations in a while.

0:38.3

It was all ready to go. And then the news cycle just accelerated and never stopped.

0:43.8

Trump administration attacked Venezuela and arrested the country's president. We began to have

0:48.7

shootings in the streets of Minneapolis. It just never felt like the right time for it. And at the same time,

0:57.7

I don't think this episode, which is about gathering and community, and what it means to

1:05.3

be more deeply together within similarities and alliances and differences and disagreements. I don't think this is a break

1:12.9

from politics. I think this is actually in some ways the core of politics. My motivation for this

1:18.1

episode was a little bit more personal. One of my resolutions this year is to spend more time

1:22.4

hosting, to make those gatherings more meaningful, to be a better member of my own community.

1:30.1

And so the person I'd wanted to talk with about that

1:32.5

is Priya Parker, who's the author of this beautiful book,

1:35.8

The Art of Gathering, How We Meet and Why It Matters,

1:39.3

and the Substack Group Life.

1:41.0

And she just thinks about gathering and hosting and community

1:43.9

in a different way than anyone I've met. The way that thinks about gathering and hosting and community in a different way than

1:45.3

anyone I've met. The way that the Zora and Mamdani campaign thought about community and built

1:50.9

community, which is one of its most beautiful aspects, was partially built on her work and her

1:55.8

advice. So I wanted to share this episode now because it is both not at all the right time for it

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