Is your phone listening to you… and should you care?
NO SUCH THING
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4.6 • 609 Ratings
🗓️ 29 April 2025
⏱️ 35 minutes
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Summary
Most people have experienced the creepy feeling of getting ads that feel a little bit too targeted, for products they haven’t ever searched for but have maybe talked about IRL. With Amazon announcing a rollback on privacy protections, and the Trump administration ramping up mass surveillance as a scare tactic, it might be time to take stock of what privacy even means anymore. With some help from Andrew Couts, senior editor of security and investigations at WIRED, we get a clear-eyed view of how voice-assisted tech actually works, and why you should care.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Mani. I'm Noah. |
| 0:01.3 | This is Devin. |
| 0:02.0 | And this is No Such Thing, the show where we settle our dumb arguments and yours by actually doing the research. |
| 0:07.1 | On today's episode, is my phone listening to me right now? |
| 0:14.2 | There's no such thing. |
| 0:15.9 | No such thing. |
| 0:18.8 | No such thing. |
| 0:29.6 | No such thing. No. First question. First question. Do you guys use voice assistants, like devices? |
| 0:34.6 | Very infrequently, I'll tell Siri to put something put something on my calendar okay i've um for most of |
| 0:41.3 | my life have not used a calendar until very recently what at all now i'm needing to use a calendar |
| 0:47.8 | busy yeah because you're an adult man you've never used the calendar it's not that i wasn't |
| 0:52.6 | busy enough to use a calendar it's that i just |
| 0:55.4 | would remember everything but now i'm starting to like i can't remember everything it's not on the |
| 1:00.2 | calendar it doesn't exist to me yeah it's it's very important to have have it on the calendar |
| 1:04.7 | so you that's the only way you use here yeah it puts up on your calendar only it's only to uh put |
| 1:10.4 | hey syri put it add you know add this to my. And that's like on your phone. On my phone. Yeah. Not like, you don't have like a echo or something. Nope. Devin. I'm an Alexa head. So a lot of shit in my apartment is set up to go through Alexa. And I really notice it when I go on vacation. |
| 1:32.0 | You forget like how ingrained this stuff is into your life until you go somewhere where you can't do the thing because I'll be like Alexa was the weather and I'm in a hotel room. |
| 1:37.1 | Talk to like a crazy person. |
| 1:38.7 | And it's like, oh. |
| 1:40.3 | Or they're like I'm having actually some issues this week with my Alexa it's like I got to restart it whatever it's not working and I just have been putting it off and then I'm like oh like how I'm going to turn off the lights because the lights are tied to the Alexa and music like every everything in my house is tied to these Alexa so when So when Alexa doesn't work, I'm like, oh, I'm very relying on this. Yeah, I don't really do voice. The only voice activation stuff I do is like on my Roku remote where you press the mic and say a movie or whatever. Oh, yeah. Just because it, especially certain apps, it's the way they set up keyboards it's no it's it's insane like why |
| 2:19.2 | would you put the alphabet in one straight line it makes no sense you i would rather you randomize it |
| 2:25.3 | in a cube and it would be faster to type in stuff than do it that way yeah so that's the only voice |
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