Hi, folks. I have the pleasure of being joined by Dr. Ed Dutton to have a conversation about his new book, Woke Eugenics, and any other topics that come up, I'm sure the conversation will go to interesting places. Ed, how are you doing?

Yeah, I'm doing okay. It was good that conference we went to.

It was. Yeah, so if anyone who doesn't know, go and watch my talk on metaphor and anti-metaphor that has been uploaded.

I gave that at the Skildings conference this year.

You got...

So you got your talk?

Yes.

I didn't get my talk?

That's because we recorded them.

Oh, you recorded them?

Yes.

Oh, I see.

No, okay, fine.

Fan off, fan off, fun off, fan off, not. Something about power being he who decides the exception, right?

Got it. So I made sure that mine was up first. But no, it was a really good conference, wasn't it?

What was so fascinating about it was that there was so many young people, the younger than me, younger than you, who, and they were, they weren't like weirdos. They were,

they were just normal people in their 30s and 20s who had had enough and were very reasonable

about the fact that they'd had enough. And normally when you get girls at a conference like

this, I think I counted there were maybe 13 women. Yeah. I don't know how many men will be

a hundred. But you'd expect them to be really outliers in the world of women, really, really

peculiar. But no, they were a lot perfectly normal women that had just had enough seen through

the system and wanted to, in their own small way, contribute to do something about it and meet

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