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Ringside Toe2Toe Boxing Podcast

'Is Wilder making a BIG Chisora mistake?' | CBS responds to Opetaia speculation | Don Charles reflects on Dubois split

Ringside Toe2Toe Boxing Podcast

Sky Sports

News, Sports News, Sports

4.1918 Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2026

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

On this week's episode Andy Scott and Barry Jones are joined by Chris Billam-Smith, Don Charles, and Dr Ezekiel Adamu.

Former WBO cruiserweight champion Billam-Smith reveals a timeline for his return to the ring and the big names on his hitlist.

Six months on from his split from Daniel Dubois, Charles reflects on how things ended, his 'complex' relationship with Derek Chisora, and who he thinks would represent the best comeback fight for Tyson Fury.  

Nigerian promoter Dr Ezekiel Adamu discusses his ambitious plans to grow boxing in Africa and hopefully stage a huge marquee event soon.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

At TFL, we're opening up more of London for everyone with step-free access.

0:05.3

We're continuing to improve accessibility at many of our stations,

0:08.8

and now over 200 stations and counting have step-free access,

0:13.0

including the entire Elizabeth Line, DLR and all tram stops.

0:17.1

That is how we're making the greener way to travel more accessible to all.

0:21.6

Such TFL improvement plan to the Mayor of London and TFL every journey matters.

0:27.2

Greener than total estimated petrol and diesel car emissions.

0:30.9

The champion's back.

0:34.2

This is how I let you get made.

0:37.1

Blast off in the brave new world. Bring on the game change. Game champs like. Well, this is how I let you get made. Well, hello and welcome to another edition of Towsight to

0:40.3

Top-to-Too, the boxing podcast exclusive to Sky Sports. I'm Addie Scott, and alongside me is Barry Jones. Hello, Barry. Am I'm, how are you? Oh, I'm very good, thank you. You look awful. Thank you. Yeah, but that's, that is the beauty of a podcast, thank God. No one can see what I actually look like at the moment. Let me describe it then. Well, exactly. Exactly. I am happy to be back in the studio after hobnobbing with Hollywood A-listers, you and I with 007 Pierce Brosnan. Oh, it was surreal, wasn't it? It was a bit surreal, actually. And Naz was fantastic. He was. Unbelievable, yeah. Really good day. Really good day. It was good. Later in the show, we'll be joined by former Cruiserate World Champion, Chris Bill and Smith, who will be outlining his plans for 2026. But first, we're kicking things off by diving into the major boxing headlines. And to help us do that, I'm delighted to say that we're joined by esteemed trainer Don Charles. Thank you very much for coming on, Don. Thank you for inviting him in. Not, I'm quite happy to tell the story. Like, I've been trying to get you on this podcast for a few months now. And we used to engage on WhatsApp. And then I lost you. I lost you somehow. And I had to contact your son because I was like, tell me if I've upset your dad. And he was like, I don't think you've upset my dad.

2:02.2

It takes a lot to upset him.

2:03.1

And then I got like, oh my God,

2:04.2

imagine if I am the one that's upset him.

2:05.7

So I'm glad to say.

2:06.5

He would have told you, to be fair.

2:07.8

Yeah, I'm very.

2:09.0

Don's actually one of my favorite people in boxing.

2:11.0

Yeah.

2:11.3

I don't like a lot of people in boxing, though.

2:19.9

So it's a shallow pool.

2:20.8

It's a shallow pool.

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