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🗓️ 10 October 2025
⏱️ 51 minutes
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| 0:32.6 | States do not decide war. Individuals, humans decide war. War is not inevitable. |
| 0:39.1 | I'm not a pacifist, but history shows war fails. |
| 0:44.0 | We only need to look at Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, so-called War on Terror. |
| 0:49.6 | None of these wars bring peace. |
| 0:52.2 | Most great powers we know today have been built on wars. So, of course, war does pay. |
| 0:58.6 | This is open to debate. I'm John Donvan. Hi, everybody. Our topic today for debate is war. Is there |
| 1:04.9 | ever a time when there is not one going on somewhere? Right now, just to name the most ferocious, |
| 1:09.8 | there is Ukraine, there is Gaza, |
| 1:12.1 | there is Sudan. And you go back in time, way back, and how many of the great literary works |
| 1:18.0 | of antiquity are actually about war or warriors, the Iliad, Beowulf, so many more. And it raises |
| 1:24.2 | the question of why? Why is there so much war? Is it just baked into how we tend to |
| 1:30.2 | arrange ourselves as humans into tribes and nowadays into states? Or is there? And has there always been |
| 1:36.5 | a route to avoiding war? In this episode, we're going to look at the global system of power |
| 1:41.7 | and states as they exist today. And we're asking |
| 1:44.8 | this question with powerful arguments on both sides. Is war inevitable? Let's meet our debaters. |
| 1:51.2 | Argument the answer to that question is yes, that war is inevitable. I want to welcome Dylan |
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